forums (part 2)

I mentioned this a few weeks ago when I got disillusioned with a few groups on Flickr.

Why are internet forums so hostile?

I was reading some scientific journals the other day and was somewhat surprised by the level of hostility there too. I guess after reading the Climategate emails and the resulting fallout I should have expected it, but really, there’s no excuse for such acidity and venom in a scientific debate.   Personal opinions and whathaveyou are one thing, but engaging others in a head to head debate and name calling and indulging in personal attacks is just so wrong.

Its so wrong on a photography forum, especially one with a group like PIP – Photographers in Perth – where its common interests with people that live near to each other, but I got so sick of the open nastiness and so called “just sarcasm” (read nastiness with a smiley at the end) in response to posts, plus the odd nasty personal message that I can’t participate at all with it anymore.   I should say thats its only a handful of people that are hostile on there, most are very lovely and genuine, but thats more than enough for me to step away.

Its even more wrong in a scientific community where the aim is to debate science, facts, research and figures – personal attacks just shouldnt come into it.  But it does and its even worse than youtube comments sometimes.  Pathetic.

I’m no longer reading or participating in any form of online debate, I’d rather sit in the shade and read a book.

Dear Tia (aka little doggy) *contains swearing

Dear Tia

You are a sweet little pooch, ever trotting around the house following one of us about with your little tail wagging happily, scampering around the garden and sleeping curled up in the sun resting your chin on a shoe.  Your fussing over the guinea pigs and mothering them when the girls bring them in to play with them is adorable and your begging expression and big brown eyes staring up at me whenever I eat toast is very cute, although ultimately utterly futile.  I even have a cute photo of you (although I don’t carry it in my wallet, that would be freaky wouldn’t it?)

Tia the doggy

But at 11pm, 12, 1 and 2am when you start yapping at something outside I would like to turn you into a dog shaped glove or perhaps a cushion or a stuffed dog.  You’re the most annoying creature on the planet.

I’ve had this conversation with you during the day, often going something like this

you:   yap yap yap bark yap
me:   shut UP! *squirts doggy with plant mister
you:  yap?
me:  No! *squirt*
you:  bark bark yap
me:  WTF, Shut. Up! *spray*
you: …

This happens often enough that I know you must realise how much the barking annoys us all.  Our displeasure, the shouting, the water spray, the being removed from the front room on the receiving end of my big toe, the being shut in the laundry when you just wont stop – it has to sink in, surely?

So why then, little pooch, do you yap for 1/2 the fucking night?  You must know we’ll be pissed off?

Sleep – ever heard of it?

Well its clear you haven’t.  And as I result, I haven’t either,  because at 6:30am this morning you forgot again, you irritating barking little creature.  6:30am after going to bed at 2:30am!  What the Fuck!

You don’t appear to need a wee as you laid restfully in the already warm sun on the back patio when I let you out.  There’s clearing nothing bothering you as you’re sitting by the window happily dozing again already.

So what the fuck is wrong with you, Tia?  What the shitting fucking bollocking hell is going through your walnut-sized brain?

Why, on a weekend when I really could use a lie in, when the girls are round at their father’s, when I have the most unbelievable sleep-depriving series of flights to do in just 6 days time, do you think I will be happy with 4 hours sleep?

I really would appreciate your urgent attention to this matter and taking some time to shutting the fuck up in the middle of the night and early in the mornings.

Best and warmest regards

The tired and grumpy meal ticket.

*open letter idea blatantly stolen from Lauren

music and alcohol

Yes, I know – its a slight variation on the Oasis or Dr Feelgood songs..

As regular readers of this fine and entertaining blog (yeah, okay, I’m overselling it somewhat) will know is that Jay and I went to see the B52’s and the Proclaimers at Sandalford Wines just outside Perth at the weekend.

We got there early, which turned out to be a good thing as the place was packed – we were pretty much at the head of the queue for the gates.  Lugging our picnic gear across the field, we picked a spot a way back at the top of the hill that slopes down towards the stage area and set up the blanky, the esky and got the chairs out and set.  It was a beautiful sunny day – pretty windy, but still 33 degrees despite the clouds that were rolling in off the sea.

We had an “encounter” in the queue to get in with some rough-as-guts Kiwi’s who were already tucking into a the booze (despite the fact there was a no bring your own alcohol policy) but most people were in good spirits.

Mental as Anything came on and played a very lack-lustre set to put it mildly.  They were muffled, ploddy and the banter between songs was rubbish.  They really need to pack it in before they spoil all those good 80’s memories.

There was a quick break before the Proclaimers came on and this is where I first started to notice how much alcohol everyone was consuming.  By now the place was pretty packed and people were starting to stagger about.  Sandalford wines is not really near publuc transport, so I do wonder how people were planning to get home having dunk so much.

Anyway, The Proclaimers started up and within seconds it became clear just how bad Mental as Anything had been.  The Proclaimers were awesome – loud, punchy, on form, dynamic and just brilliantly tight.  Their band was excellent and the balance between vocals and musicians was perfect.  They played the old favourites (500 miles, letter from America etc) and some new songs too and in short, they were worth the ticket price alone.

It was now that it became obvious that Australia has a drink problem.  The crowd was mostly middle-aged, late 20’s to early 50’s I’d say with most people falling into the early 40’s category.  The should know better category.

But so many people were drinking way too much.  The group in front of us were in their 40’s and were really annoying – standing up blocking the view, up down up down getting steadily more and more pissed when suddenly one of the women in the group turned round and threw a very large glass of wine at the people next to us – totally soaking the dad, his 10 year old son and catching me down my left side.

The woman got really aggressive when the bloke got up and demanded to know what was going on – claiming someone had grabbed her hair and she was trying to get them.    She was very drunk, refused to say sorry and kept harping on about her hair – the bloke next to us (who wasnt drinking) lost it at this point and had a right go.

That kinda spoiled the rest of the evening the drunk woman kept on drinking and staggering around, her partner trying to placate her (but still not apologising) – the family next to us walked off in disgust and never came back, leaving all their stuff behind.  More and more people were guzzling an endless supply of wine and staggering around – it was embarrassing.

Tears, the stench of booze, public drunkenness, falling over, the faint smell of vomit from somewhere in the crowd..not what you expect from a middle aged crowd at a (fairly expensive) picnic on the green at one of WA’s premier wineries.

And people were driving home after all this.  Crazy.

The B52’s came on and they were a bit muffled – the sound balance was a bit off to start with – but instantly recognisable and on form.  The girls were still as vocally limber as ever and Fred Schneider was camp and commanding as you’d expect.

They played an odd set with some of their newer stuff and one or two left-field classics (party out bounds – not their best song, but appropriate given how pissed the crowd was) but mostly they were brilliant, and as they got going , their set and the sound became better – with them doing Private Idaho, Roam, 52 Girls, Mesopotamia, Love Shack and then rounding it all off with an encore of Planet Claire and Rock Lobster.

Jay hated pretty much every minute of them as she’s not a fan, but I thought they were wicked.

The drunk wine woman’s partner came up to us and said sorry, I pointed out that it wasnt so much the wine (although that was really stupid) it was more the fact that she thought it was ok and didnt apologise that got our backs up.  He was ok though and did try to make it better, although 2 hours had elapsed, he might have been better doing it a bit sooner)

The drink throwing woman then staggering up to us and said sorry too.  Well, kinda, she still went on about her hair and how she would never throw wine (well, love, clearly you would, cos you did) and how she was a good person, blah blah.  The alcohol on her breath was unbearable and her eyes focussed somewhere behind me, so I politely accepted her apology and steered her back to her party and the rest of Rock Lobster.

And then we drove home, threading our way out of the carpark avoiding the staggering drunks and pushy rude people..

Australia – you really need to get a grip on the booze, I have never seen so many grown adults lose control (and still have to drive home) in such a shameful way before, but the music was very good (mental as anything excepted) and we had a good time.

drinky-poos

So having got a very large collection of alcomaholic beverages left over from the party, its only fair that whilst Jay and I watch some of season 4 of Dexter, I mix up a couple of tipples.

So, tonight, we have Vodka Martini and Cosmopolitan

Vodka martini (shaken, not stirred) was okay – nothing to write home about – basically just vodka with a dash of dry vermouth.

Cosmopolitan – much nicer – 2 parts vodka, 1 cointreau, 1 cranberry juice, 1/2 lime squeezed over crushed ice, shaken and served in a cocktail glass.

Nom nom

Is it okay for my cheeks to be numb?

roasty

Its got summer hot all of a sudden

Was 34 degrees yesterday and its 36+ today – there’s a good breeze off the sea though and some clouds popping up now the afternoon is here which is chucking some much needed shade down to cool us off.

Our house faces west towards the ocean, so its easy to open the front door and the windows (we all have locking security screen doors and stuff down here to make that easy and safe) and have a lovely breeze blowing through – be better if we had the aircon working (still no progress on that – ah well, we’re using less water and electricity so its not such a bad thing) but its nice and natural.

Jay and the girls are off to see the second Twilight film this afternoon – I, however, am not.  I’m going shopping for picnic stuff for tomorrow’s B52’s and Proclaimers gig at Sandalford Winery in the Swan Valley just north east of Perth.  Need to go get a picnic blanket too.  Can’t wait.

So, to leave you in the mood for picnics and Rock Lobsters..

Has to be my fave song by them.  That and 52 girls.

Is it wrong to still have a fan-crush on Cindy Wilson?

80’s video-tastic

girls (including one dodgy looking one with a beard) on film..

I spent a few hours last night in iMovie just knocking this up – its not 100% perfect, but hey, it’s better then nothing!

Its even in HD (appears when you hit play)

Party pics

Some pics from the night – the early ones are better, can’t think why..LOL

I think everyone looks fab – glad people went to such a lot of effort with the costumes.   Jay looked wicked – pink, pink and more pink.

party night

The 80’s cocktail party for Jay and my Hen and Bucks night on Saturday night was frickin’ incredible!

You’ll have to wait for the photos as I’m at work right now, just spending a few mins collecting my thoughts before I have to tackle solution design and my brain descends into the dark depths of IT for the rest of the day..

Everyone got dressed up (as you’ll see later) – our friends had done us proud by decorating their house top to tail in old 80’s record sleeves, records, 80’s posters etc.   I had lugged over an entire boot full of alcohol in earlier in the week and that and the cocktail glasses were nicely arranged on the kitchen bench ready for action.

The music was cool – although not the 80’s stuff I remember from growing up in the UK – I guess thats one cultural difference thats going to continue to pop up

Cocktails were brilliant, so much fun mixing and shaking them, but not as much fun as the drinking *hic*

Got quietly plastered, danced a bit (I think) and had such a good time.

Jay and I walked the 10 mins home at about 2am and she didn’t get up until 4pm the next day!

Pics to follow 🙂

information overload

I want to keep this blog mostly personal stuff – of late its got a bit too global warmy, so I’m moving all the global warming debate stuff over to here

http://legendaryluminousballs.wordpress.com

please add this to your bookmarks, I will be updating regularly.

forum nonsense

people can be so rude on the internet.  its the same behind the wheel of a car – that level of distance from other people enables the very worst behaviour to come to the fore.

If these kinds of people spoke like that to someone else in person, it would be a matter of minutes before they got their head kicked in.   You don’t see (mostly) stupid selfish behaviour in the person to person world as there are obvious and immediate consequences – so why be like that on the net?

Personal attacks and viscous sarcasm – I don’t need it.

So I’m walking away from a few groups on Flickr, a site thats given me a lot of pleasure over the years, but recently, and especially on some groups that I was really enjoying participating in, there are some real shitheads who’s personal attacks are, frankly, pathetic and they’re not worth my time or energy.

I fact, they are so not worth it, that I almost didn’t write this post at all.